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	Author: bbKing (arsnova30 [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 24-Dec-08, 05:53:52
it doesn't work, sorry

	Author: bbKing (arsnova30 [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 24-Dec-08, 05:52:49
here's proof little King in love with Devalia

	Author: bbKing (arsnova30 [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 24-Dec-08, 05:31:30
If I may reply since I've built a Dwarven Defender. I started with Fighter and after about 6 or 7 levels I switched to Dwarven Defender till level 40. As a dwarf he may be small but he truly is a king. His stats: Attack bonus 66/61/56/51 Damage 2-12 +21 (critical: 15-20/x2) Base attack: 30 AC: only 57 but HP 859 How about that for a tank! lol If you don't believe it, I'll show him to you if you want. He looks awesome too, no question. This funny little man I called him King, albeit little King. After having built 6 level 40 chars (male and female monk, a dual wielding kukris, greataxe and longsword w. shield female fighter and the dwarven defender) I'm going to try a spellcaster pur sang. It will be sorcerer and if I can handle this I will try a wizard. Cuz I believe magic is the way to go and the wizard is the ultimate in everything. Let's hope i will be able to learn quickly enough to continue on.

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 23-Dec-08, 21:05:56
Hi fox, [I]Closest thing to tank is Fighter. Or the Dwarven Defender too.[/I] The question than is: When can I switch to Dwarven Defender, since its no option I can choose. Same for other promising builds like Draconic Warrior or Keeper of the Gate. What kind of chr. do I start, will there be an allignment switch, and when will I be able to access these builds?

	Author: bbKing (arsnova30 [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 23-Dec-08, 15:18:59
There's noone as effective and fast as the pure Monk. There's simply nothing better. My female monk has 84 AC and does massive damage and is fast and agile. Has all the immunities. What more would you want?

	Author: bbKing (arsnova30 [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 23-Dec-08, 15:13:33
Hi fox Thank you very much. This is very helpful indeed. The pixie is so tiny I wonder if it has any meat at all, but still manages to knock down opponents. Very cute. Why sorcerer? I found a great robe, Robe of the White Moon! only for sorcerer to wear. Plus, sorcerer is easier to play than a wizard. So i thought, lets play sorcerer first to learn how to deal with casting spells. If i can get the hang of that part, i surely would like to try a pure wizard later on. I'm now level 8, so i'm advancing .... slowly and cautiously. Your tips will be very helpful, thanks. :)

	Author: the.gray.fox (the [dot] gray [dot] fox [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 23-Dec-08, 02:46:36
There is no tank in NWN. This is not ROM 2 :-) Closest thing to tank is Fighter. Or the Dwarven Defender too. If Rhun was more balanced I would say the Wizard is the invincible one you seek. But this is not the case. So your best tank option in Rhun is the Dwarven Defender. -fox

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 23-Dec-08, 01:14:41
Gray, I hope you also have some advice in creating a real tank. Someone who can rampage the map without the need of all kinds of turn based skills/spells. Invulnarable... Well, more or less. Because I really can't stand dying with its penalties. Just annoys me lol.

	Author: the.gray.fox (the [dot] gray [dot] fox [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 23-Dec-08, 00:43:48
Hello bbKing, Your Familiar responds to your voice commands (in the radial menu: attack nearest, follow, stand ground...). You can buff him with your spells to make him tougher. Familiars are very special summons. They have no time limit, and do level up when you level up. That is why they auto-unsummon. Call back your Familiar and you see he is better. The Pixie is the best Familiar. She is a true Rogue. Rogues are always useful. You can select a different Familiar type at each level up you make. For your first levels I suggest you pick a more combat-affine Familiar, like the Panther or the Bear. You need a "shield" of meat. When you have enough spells, you can get the Pixie again. Why you picked the Sorcerer? Do not make the mistake to think Sorcerers and Wizards are the same and play the same. They look similar. But they are and play very different. Wizards are better :-) Tips for playing the spellcaster type? -- Do not multi-class. Keep her a pure Sorceress. Feats can make lot of difference. -- Combat Casting is a must-have. -- Improved Combat Casting is helpful. But you can make without it if you get the habit of using the "Defensive Casting" mode. -- Spell Penetration feats help you beat the spell resistance of your targets. -- Empower, Extend, and Maximize metamagic feats are much helpful. -- The Quicken metamagic feat is a must-have. It is requirement for the most prized Automatic Quicken Spell 1, 2 and 3 (epic feats). -- Sorcerers are Charisma-based. The more Charisma, the better. Take some Great Charisma feats. Charisma Ability Modifier adds to the DC of your spells, making them harder to save against. Charisma also gives you more spells to cast per day. (Wizards are similar, but are Intelligence-based) -- Epic Spell feats are very helpful. Epic Mage Armor and Epic Warding are a must-have. Hellball and Greater Ruin are useful. Dragon Knight and Mummy Dust... not recommended. But the Dragon Knight is a very HP-ish summon. -- You have 2 most important skills: Concentration and Spellcraft. Put all the skill points you can in them. -- Haste is a must-have. -- Keep always ready 2 spells to make yourself invisible. -- Raise your Saving throws. (Cloak of Fortification, Amulet of the Scarab...) -- Sorcerers (and Bards) can not learn all spells. So you are forced to un-learn some spells in favor of what you think are better spells to have. Choose wisely. (Wizards do not have this limit: they can learn every arcane spell) -- You can use scrolls too. But they are slow to use. Treat them as "last resort". -fox

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 22-Dec-08, 19:25:38
BB, I'm curious if it's possible to access your normal IP. In fact, I'm curious if I can get on ANY normal IP by direct connect (not by gamepsy serverlist, that's no problem). For the record: I have setup my own version of the server and want to synchronize with the game I play on Nova or Bb's server. Not that I intend to host - this is taking a lot of computer cpu, especially if you want to host AND play.

	Author: bbKing (arsnova30 [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 22-Dec-08, 18:06:42
well, finally I'm going to try something very different, after a few types of fighter and monks. A sorceress! With a pixie as familiar. Thus far I made it to level 5. I have to get used to keeping distance and casting spells ofcourse. I have a few questions about the familiar. How can I protect it? How can I issue commands? And why is the pixie automatically unsummoned after each level-up? So, fox, if you have the time, be my guest :) Also any other useful tips regarding playing this sorceress would be greatly appreciated.

	Author: bbKing (arsnova30 [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 22-Dec-08, 04:30:50
Until i've sorted out why i can't use my normal IP, the IP Nova gave is [b]my Hamachi IP[/b]!! so you have to login through Hamachi, unfortunately. (no password required) My Hamachi name is [b]ArsNova[/b].

	Author: NOVA (KINGKOTA666 [at] HOTMAIL [dot] COM)
	Date: 22-Dec-08, 02:55:24
ok....I gave up on my ISP. Could be the local storms....but my internet keeps popping in/out. Therefore, I have transferred ALL server files to BBKing. He's now hosting. His IP is 5.66.236.179 no password All character files have been transferred. Have fun. -NOVA Thanks BB.

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 21-Dec-08, 21:48:14
Nova, it looks like your IP is in a range of a so called Bogon filter. Look here: http://www.broadbandreports.com/shownews/Mediacom-IP-Range-Shift-Not-Going-Smoothly-99668 That could explain why BB has no problem in accessing your server, and I mostly can't: one of the hobs may not let me through (although the tracert did not show problems, but I dont know if the game takes the same route).

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 20-Dec-08, 18:01:07
Still weird, why can I never enter your server with that ip? It always times out. But with the Hamachi Ip I connect instantly.

	Author: NOVA (KINGKOTA666 [at] HOTMAIL [dot] COM)
	Date: 20-Dec-08, 01:42:37
OK...it looks like the cable company is having major problems..... My connection is going on and off quite frequently now....but I also seem to have gotten my original IP back.... 173.23.96.226

	Author: the.gray.fox (the [dot] gray [dot] fox [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 20-Dec-08, 01:38:36
--Aldabaran Sorry that I reply now. I did not notice this before. You forget that Clerics have to pick two Domains. The Domains you pick DO make a great difference. And you should pick them after very careful consideration. You say: [b]Ýet I'm confused why my monk/cleric and cleric/fighter have different spell effects on the same level. e.g. My monk/cleric gets a huge elemental when he casts Summon creature 6, and my Cleric fighter gets a dire tiger for the same level spell. The monk/cleric had the dire tiger already at summon creature 5...[/b] I can tell your Monk/Cleric has got the "Animal Domain Powers" feat. In fact an effect of having that Domain is that of receiving a summon that is 1 class higher than the spell level (but the max class is always 9, no matter the Domain). So you cast Summon Creature VI, and you receive the pet from Summon Creature VII. Got it? :-) -fox

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 20-Dec-08, 00:33:38
For some reason I never am never able to enter with your regular ip, so I always use the Hamachi ip with the join lan game option. But that is currently down.

	Author: NOVA (KINGKOTA666 [at] HOTMAIL [dot] COM)
	Date: 19-Dec-08, 23:54:25
Oh forgot to mention....it also knocked out my power supply. Fortunately I had a backup. All back in order know I hope......

	Author: NOVA (KINGKOTA666 [at] HOTMAIL [dot] COM)
	Date: 19-Dec-08, 23:53:30
OK, major disaster in last 24 hours. We had a giant ice storm that knocked out power and cable to about half our town. The cable finally just came back. That's the good news. Now the bad news....my IP has changed AGAIN. New IP is: 169.254.143.101

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 17-Dec-08, 19:34:51
Gray, you are right about healing. Its level 6. Ýet I'm confused why my monk/cleric and cleric/fighter have different spell effects on the same level. e.g. My monk/cleric gets a huge elemental when he casts Summon creature 6, and my Cleric fighter gets a dire tiger for the same level spell. The monk/cleric had the dire tiger already at summon creature 5...

	Author: bbKing (arsnova30 [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 16-Dec-08, 05:50:35
yes you can teleport to a party member Nova showed me there is a comeradery stone just for that purpose i have one on one of my chars but i forgot where i got the stone btw, i have now 3 level 40 chars (a male and a female monk) and a 2-weapon female fighter, plus a 38 level dwarf greatsword defender and also a 36 level female longsword with shield fighter all my female chars look awesome (in my opinion ofcourse) what a great game feature it is to change the looks of your chars as to colours (with the dye bottles) i love my chars, the female ones i mean just for this its a much better game than rom2 lol

	Author: the.gray.fox (the [dot] gray [dot] fox [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 15-Dec-08, 03:37:57
-- tp tp = Teleport? From what I know, you can not tp to a party member. -- Wands For the Wand, the description on the very Feat should give you all details. I admit I have never made wands. Can not help you much. -- Stralad If you can not handle the Hill Giant boss(es) easily, you better stay away from Stralad. Build your levels by skinning the Rakshaasa in Thryndir Jungle :-) Quick XP from easy foes. When you are done with them, go to Stralad. Several ways to reach it. I give you a good road to test yourself: Seek the Vampire Tunnels under the Wyvern Spine. No map pin for it. So explore the unmarked exits. The tunnels will lead you to a portal. The portal will lead you to the inside of Lord Stralten Castle. Castle develops on a few floors. But the exit from it is on the same floor you entered it via the portal. So search around, without changing floor. Outside the Castle is Stralad Moors. From Stralad Moors you can enter Stralad City. -- Heal spell Only Clerics and Druids can have the Heal spell. Clerics get it as Level 6 spell. Druids get it as Level 7 spell. Regardless, Heal as a Innate Level of 6. From what I know, a Cleric can get Heal either as a Level 5 spell, or Level 6 spell. The Healing Domain Powers feat will give you Heal as Level 5. Without this Domain, you get it as Level 6. You talk of Levels 6 and 7, instead. Maybe you confused the numbers? -fox

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 15-Dec-08, 00:28:26
Thnx Fox. I already found the hill giant lair, the giants give nice xp, but I say out of the way of the endlevelbosses, because they easily kill me. Found some other ways: repeat the pirateclock quest and in the same session kill the waterjins? along the coast. How do I get to the city you mention? Got as far as Llidor, and above: Nebrir, seems to lead back to Thryridir jungle... Did not find a way north. Some other questions: -Can I tp to a partymember? -I have 'create magic wand' and the description tells me I can add up to level 3 spells; yet when I try to add a level 3 spell it sais I've not enough xp for that. Is there a table where I can see what xp/spelllevel needed? -Something weird: my cleric/fighter - cleric spell lvl 6: heal; my monk/cleric: same spell not on level 6 but on level 7. Also casting creatures is different on higher levels.

	Author: the.gray.fox (the [dot] gray [dot] fox [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 15-Dec-08, 00:01:08
[b]I'm only level 13 and this place does not give me XP anymore (9 per kill). Any other places for power leveling?[/b] Maybe it is too late to tell, but with 13 levels you can go visit the Hill Giants lair. Good XP they give. There is also a Giant Boss there. Much XP from him. Otherwise you can trip to Stralad. Visit all of it, both above and below ground, if you can handle the monsters ;-) There is huge XP to make there. Good items too. -fox

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 13-Dec-08, 00:04:41
[B]...Be near the wall. Follow the road. Dispatch the wolf. When you see the orc encampment, on your left, enter it. Those Orcs are cheap and give loads of XP. Feels like cheating. Stay in there and take levels. Many levels. I suggest you abandon when you see each orc gives you only 60 XP. At that point you are grown up and can explore following your nose.[/B] It looks like diminishing returns is in effect :( I'm only level 13 and this place does not give me XP anymore (9 per kill). Any other places for power leveling?

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 09-Dec-08, 22:34:02
There is a problem: Every day when I log in for the first time I find myself back at the starting area, my last tp is no longer there (meaning a long walk), and all map knowledge is lost (can really be a pain in the ass when I explore farther; I tend to forget the places I visited before)

	Author: NOVA (KINGKOTA666 [at] HOTMAIL [dot] COM)
	Date: 09-Dec-08, 03:51:42
On the contrary, I can and do deny that I asked for those things because I have in fact NEVER asked for anything on your HAT. In regard to the patches, I merely pointed out that your HAT was vulnerable to various game bugs and cheats. I did so only to be certain you were aware of such vulnerabilities. I then pointed out that patches were available if you wished to prevent these cheats and game exploits. Whether you apply them or not I really could not care....it's YOUR HAT. As to the gear available on your HAT, I NEVER asked for any gear at all. What I did was simply make the statement (and only one time) that the gear available there is a bit of a hodge podge and does not work well together. Again, not a request at all, simply a statement of fact. As to your parting comment about who makes a HAT, I also disagree strongly with that. If it were truly the players who "made the HAT", no player would ever be without a HAT to play on. The reality is, the ADMIN makes the HAT....period. Don't believe me? Take away the players (one of them, all of them, it doesn't matter)....you still have a HAT. Take away the HAT ADMIN, however, and there is NO HAT at all. I've had this argument many times before and for some bizarre reason no one ever seems to get this right. And before you leap to your next wrong conclusion, I am in no way saying players are utterly unecessary. What I am saying is simply that the ADMIN is FAR FAR more important than ANY of the players. -NOVA

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 08-Dec-08, 21:01:50
[B]Name ONE thing I have asked for on your ROM2 server ???[/B] -Applying patches (you can't deny that hehe) -developping sets of questgear (also a request of BB) Its not a problem to me, I realize its the players who make the hat, not the hat administrator.

	Author: NOVA (KINGKOTA666 [at] HOTMAIL [dot] COM)
	Date: 08-Dec-08, 20:15:04
Name ONE thing I have asked for on your ROM2 server ???

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 08-Dec-08, 19:40:39
Hehe, ok so maybe I'm a little bit too greedy on someone else's server. But than, Nova is greedy on my rom2 server too, asking for all kinds of set items, which took me hours of figuring out, creating and testing. So my requests still stand :)

	Author: the.gray.fox (the [dot] gray [dot] fox [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 08-Dec-08, 01:51:54
Hello. [b]The problem with itemlevelrestriction is that its determined from the max class level [...] if you choose to play warrior/cleric/monk and level up equally, than you are only level 10 with the same number of XP, but restricted to level 10 items.[/b] Incorrect. I quote from previous post you made: [b]Rhun_on_itemequp Change: int iLevPC = GetHitDice(oPlayer); into: int iLevPC = 3 * GetHitDice(oPlayer); -Allows items to be equiped up to 3 times pc level.[/b] Function GetHitDice() returns the total Character level. Not the highest Class level the Character has. Add these 2 lines to your script and see with your eyes: object oPC = GetFirstPC (); SendMessageToPC (oPC, "\nDEBUG:\nCharacter Level of " + GetName (oPC) + " is: " + GetHitDice (oPC)); ---------------------------------------- [b]No he did not. In fact you can even drop a level if your xp turns to low on his server (he told me).[/b] I understand. -fox

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 07-Dec-08, 23:26:52
Unfortunately Nova's server is down. Applying patches?

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 07-Dec-08, 19:59:01
No he did not. In fact you can even drop a level if your xp turns to low on his server (he told me). The problem with itemlevelrestriction is that its determined from the max class level, and not from XP. e.g. a level 30 warrior can use nice gear, but if you choose to play warrior/cleric/monk and level up equally, than you are only level 10 with the same number of XP, but restricted to level 10 items. That's why I set the restriction level on 3 times chr. level on my server. Otherwise players are forced to level only 1 class (which is what actually happens now with my chr on Novas server: I would like to level in both monk and cleric, but I abandonned leveling the monk because I would walk around in low level gear for a very long time)

	Author: the.gray.fox (the [dot] gray [dot] fox [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 07-Dec-08, 19:34:24
From what I know, NOVA removed the death penalty from his server weeks ago. Item-level thing is not important because you know how to power-level and go 40 in hours instead of days. -fox

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 07-Dec-08, 18:53:48
I know Grey, but I did not know when I posted that ;) So what remains are Deathpenalty and itemlevelrestriction, which can easily be altered (see below).

	Author: the.gray.fox (the [dot] gray [dot] fox [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 07-Dec-08, 18:27:12
[b]Less important, but still significant: allow powerleveling.[/b] You do not understand: no need for power leveling. You follow advice in my previous post and you powerlevel by your own. Enough to go discover other places I did not mention. You need a measure? In those places you kill 33 monsters and you level up from 39 to 40. Is it enough power-leveling for you? Or are you scared by a challenge? -fox

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 07-Dec-08, 17:55:01
I applied these 2 changes to my own Rhun mod: Rhun_onpc_respwn Change: int nPenalty = 75 * GetHitDice(oDead); into: int nPenalty = 0 * GetHitDice(oDead); -Removes death penalty Rhun_on_itemequp Change: int iLevPC = GetHitDice(oPlayer); into: int iLevPC = 3 * GetHitDice(oPlayer); -Allows items to be equiped up to 3 times pc level. I suggest Nova to apply this too, or variations of it. Play with it :)

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 07-Dec-08, 12:25:43
Lol, thanks for the advice. At the moment my first priority is to find a way to decrease deathpenalty. This is not hell level diablo2, so no xp loss. When I've found it I'll report back so we can play without being afraid of dying (well it would loose some gold, but that's less pain anyway). I also asked Nova to turn off the itemlevelcheck. To my opinion it has no function. There's only 3 of us playing: Nova, BB and me. Nova and BB already have maxed out chr's. So I'm the only one suffering the consequences. (in fact this also counts for the deathpenalty - I'm the only one leveling there - not counting the former mule of Nova hehe). Less important, but still significant: allow powerleveling. I already found how to do this: sha_xpsystem. Set const float maximum_level_gap=40.0 Again, this only matters for me. The others already have maxed out chr's. It won't hurt them. :)

	Author: the.gray.fox (the [dot] gray [dot] fox [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 07-Dec-08, 01:50:23
Maybe you know already. Maybe not. I tell. Easy monsters are found South of Etum. Exit from South gate and fight in that area for a while(). Stay there until you are level 5 or 6. No more. Then go more South. Swamp place. Stay away of monsters(). They can poison you and you get little XP from them. So follow road and go more south. This new area is where you wlll stay for a good time(*). Be near the wall. Follow the road. Dispatch the wolf. When you see the orc encampment, on your left, enter it. Those Orcs are cheap and give loads of XP. Feels like cheating. Stay in there and take levels. Many levels. I suggest you abandon when you see each orc gives you only 60 XP. At that point you are grown up and can explore following your nose. -fox () = do not enter Hill Giants Lair () = do not enter Trolls Cave () = stay away from the Tree(*). () = Stay the hell away from the Tree!(*) (***) = Do not climb it should a nude nymph approach and promise you oral sex non stop.

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 06-Dec-08, 23:48:09
Nova, It seems that itemlevelrestrictions are turned on/off on serversite. When I turn it of in my own Rhun module there is no hassle in checking items and buying the wrong ones with too high level. I suggest you turn this off. Because its really a pain in the @$$ to check everything in shops and it would make playing much faster if everyone can use every item.

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 06-Dec-08, 15:48:07
Hmmm, I always appreciate your comments Gray, but you are missing the point: I was asked to get this game because it would have gameplay like ROM2, but even better. So don't be suprised that I expect to play the game like I play ROM2. Also I expected a server crowded with players lol! Atton, BB, Nova himself, at least those guys and maybe more. Actually I'm quite positive about NwN and its mods. But its just like ROM2: it only works with the proper combination of maps. Someone start a ROM2 server with only maps of the WS series, and I'm off lol! No fun for me. So what about Rhun? I notice you guys are making changes to this mod. I would suggest: 1. Add a lot of weaker monsters around the sarting city, so new players have a nice start. 2. Add stronger monsters near guards so players can lure them to the guards, who kill them, and than pickup the loot 3. Remove level restrictions for wearing items. A level 1 players should be able to wear a +3 amulet when its not tied to a feat (and in the basic game, this is no problem) 4. Add more servers; the fun of ROM2 is to switch with our chr. between servers, level on all kinds of maps. (and yes, I would like to include the diablo mod lol!) 5. If 4 is not possible, than allow players to import their own chr's. I realize this won't be done in a few hours. Until than: BE there to help new players around. And give them a good start. No, you're not being rude Gray. But realize that I was invited to this, that I took a lot of effort to get this game, not to find out everything on my own on an empty server, but in the expactation that I would have a power start with the help of the other players. (My current chr. has 7 hp left or so, no money, no gear, too weak to slay any monster... A bit of a hopeless situation lol!)

	Author: the.gray.fox (the [dot] gray [dot] fox [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 06-Dec-08, 13:02:59
Patience is a Virtue. You are not virtuous. I picture you in role of a Evil character. Maybe a Blackguard? I could give very rude answers. But we are near Christmas (lucky you). I will be more Good than usual. ---------------------------------------- [b]Well, there's a lot of things I dont like in that module already. I downloaded it myself, read the info pdf files and played with my diablo chr...[/b] No. You import your diablo character in Rhun, and it is like merging unrelated things. Also not all your diablo gear may work in Rhun. You want the gear from Rhun. Only way to get it is to find it. Only way to find it is to beat Impossible monsters. If you start godlike, there are so many less Impossible monsters, and you find no gear. Good mechanism. ---------------------------------------- [b]Sigh. So many restrictions: gear tied to chr. level; I can use my diablo gear in the normal adventure, but in Rhun it says that my chr. is too low. What da!![/b] Accept that modules are like enclosed worlds. They define rules, places, names, gear and monsters. In Rhun there is a rule that you can not use what is bigger than you. First you grow up, then you use the big stuff. This works coupled with what I said above. So you do not want to use the big stuff before it is time. ---------------------------------------- [b]No powerleveling allowed because you don't level when a party member is 10 levels higher... Oh c'm on PLEASE![/b] Wise rule instead. In Rhun you walk with someone 10 levels over your, and you are swarmed by monsters that will play hula-hop with your spine. You have no chance to beat them. Nor stay alive. But you want the XP for it? You will surely die. No XP to earn when you die, anyway. ---------------------------------------- [b]Higher level gear only available after you've done the proper quests if the DM decides so.[/b] Ignore it. ---------------------------------------- [b]I'll start on my own computer with the Diablo chr, and as much gear I can use, than see how far I come. Once I start at Nova's server I dont want to play from scratch with a level 1 chr with no experience and gear. So powerleveling within a few hours is a must! Including good gear...[/b] Rhun was designed to accomodate all kind of players. Even those like you. So in Rhun there is a secret place where you find the "I Win" button. There to press, for who-ever finds it. But I do not tell you where it is or what it does. It is not my server. And because it is not my server I can not know where you find it. It changes place every time, according to specific player data. Smart design. NOVA knows where to find it on his server. Ask him politely. -fox

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 06-Dec-08, 01:41:09
Well, there's a lot of things I dont like in that module already. I downloaded it myself, read the info pdf files and played with my diablo chr... Sigh. So many restrictions: gear tied to chr. level; I can use my diablo gear in the normal adventure, but in Rhun it says that my chr. is too low. What da!! No powerleveling allowed because you don't level when a party member is 10 levels higher... Oh c'm on PLEASE! Higher level gear only available after you've done the proper quests if the DM decides so. I sincerely hope Nova allows it to drop everywher rather than only for those who completed high level quests! In short: too many restrictions! Getting rid of them would be my first priority when I try to mod the mod lol. Anyway, items restricted to chr level is not acceptable to me. Leveling for a feat, ok. but no chr. level!!! I'll start on my own computer with the Diablo chr, and as much gear I can use, than see how far I come. Once I start at Nova's server I dont want to play from scratch with a level 1 chr with no experience and gear. So powerleveling within a few hours is a must! Including good gear... Time to sleep, I have to work tomorrow.

	Author: bbKing (arsnova30 [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 06-Dec-08, 01:22:32
if you had been a bit attentive, you could have asked the first NPC you saw after you made your character, where the best places are to level up. but i realize you don't have a Rhun map lol, and that's where NOVA's Rhun flow chart will prove invaluable. i'll talk to you tomorrow through hamachi and we can login together and i'll help you on your way to NWN stardom. for indeed once you are level 5 you can pretty much take care of yourself. still you must be willing to invest time & effort to advance, like in every other game.

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 06-Dec-08, 00:28:55
Sigh. My first impression of the Rhun module is that you need at least a level 5 chr to start with, and decent equipment. I'm going back to the Diablo module, thats much better balance for starting players; and has good droppings like King leorics armor and Griswold axe even at the start. Someone call me back to Rhun with a load of decent items and advice where I can level fast. Like a stated, I'm not the patient type of player.

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 06-Dec-08, 00:09:22
I'm playing on LAN now on Hamachi. But I'm totally lost in the Ettum castle district; only houses and no way to get out?? I'm running out of patience rapidly, wanna get to the action instead of walking around.

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 05-Dec-08, 23:34:47
BB, can't you log on to Hamachi so we can use the chat there? I want to talk through what I'm doing to see if I do something wrong

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 05-Dec-08, 23:14:14
Its still not responding for me :(

	Author: bbKing (arsnova30 [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 05-Dec-08, 23:00:01
server is up and running again! thanks NOVA :) hey Albadaran, a monk haha good guild too once you've leveled up enough we (NOVA, you & me) can form a Monk Gang and nothing can stop us lmao i have now a level 40 monk and female fighter with 2 kukris and a level 38 dwarven defender wielding an epic greatsword (sorry fox, no waraxe :)) oh and about not being able to chose the greyed out classes, you can chose them after your 1st level up, but fox can explain how this works much better than i can

	Author: NOVA (KINGKOTA666 [at] HOTMAIL [dot] COM)
	Date: 05-Dec-08, 20:44:01
I'm at work right now, but it sounds like my computer or my ISP died. I'll reset it once I get home. Sorry for the problems. -NOVA

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 05-Dec-08, 20:37:13
A monk lol! BtW: why can I only choose a chr out of the list until Wizzard, and none of the (more special) chr's below?

	Author: bbKing (arsnova30 [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 05-Dec-08, 20:32:49
you're right, it's down now what character you made?

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 05-Dec-08, 19:28:23
Looks like its really down now: no ping. Nova also dissappeared from the Hamachi list.

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 05-Dec-08, 17:52:27
Hmmm, seems I spoke too early, it probably has nothing to do with Hamachi. I created a chr and played until I died, than got in a small white landscape with some kind of angel, than I was disconnected: time out. And now the server time out is back again. Can't join.

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 05-Dec-08, 17:35:23
Nm, I'm in. Did not know that I needed the Hamachi server online.

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 05-Dec-08, 17:07:23
Well I cant get in. It still times out. I do see the internet serverlist, so no clue what it can be. Maybe just check the steps I take? -Play -> multiplayer (reject the newer version) -join internet game -> direct connect -server ip (173.23.96.226 ) -pass NOVA (does not matter what I enter, because it always times out) I also tried the DM client, with the same result.

	Author: bbKing (arsnova30 [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 05-Dec-08, 16:33:17
should work, cuz i just played the server

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 05-Dec-08, 15:55:37
Nova, I installed the expansions and set them back to 1.68. Tried to log in on 173.23.96.226 (pass: NOVA) with direct connect, but your server is not responding (time out). I pinged you, and the ping is ok, but still no server...

	Author: the.gray.fox (the [dot] gray [dot] fox [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 30-Nov-08, 15:57:41
Haha. I am smart. I apprehend fast. Fox for a reason. Flawless too. Please move one step back. My ego needs space. Sorry for the encumbrance :-) -fox

	Author: bbKing (arsnova30 [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 30-Nov-08, 02:12:37
it is very correct fox, no worries in fact you used it so well and i like that saying so much that i wanted to repeat it ... there's nothing more to it :)

	Author: the.gray.fox (the [dot] gray [dot] fox [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 30-Nov-08, 00:40:49
"hmmm .... judging a book by its cover ...." Why? Is it not correct english? I have no fault. I saw it said in a e-mail forwarded to me. I assumed it was correct. Maybe it is not? -fox

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 29-Nov-08, 23:04:25
Yesss... I actually play the diablo1 mod now, and that's pretty nice! So I already figured playing on a server is completely different to playing the singleplayer game. I'll see if I can order it at amazon, and when I have it I'll brief you so I can pk.. err... play with you all!

	Author: bbKing (arsnova30 [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 29-Nov-08, 22:17:36
hmmm .... judging a book by its cover .... anyway, what's needed to play NOVA's server is NWN plus the 2 expansions already mentioned, upgrade to 1.69 and then downgrade to 1.68, that's all. In the Rhun module you don't have to do quests (or talk to NPC's) if you don't want to. you can find spots and areas for leveling closeby. for even better areas, giving more xp, you need to travel a bit. every guild has a means of getting teleported to the guild (for selling loot for instance) and teleported back to where you were, so that you can continue leveling. so, you can play the way you like. also, if spellcasters had unlimited spells available all the time and if monsters were untouchable, how you ever gonna beat those. luckily every monster has its weakness and every spellcaster runs out of bullets eventually, like fox eloquently pointed out .... as usual.

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 29-Nov-08, 14:09:46
I'm willing to give it a try, by practicing with a 1.68 mod where I can just fight and level, without all those quests. And without the need to teamup. The mods I see are 1.69 (I think), any recommendations? If I like it I'll continue my search for the diamond box, or whatever is required to play here.

	Author: the.gray.fox (the [dot] gray [dot] fox [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 29-Nov-08, 11:50:57
Hm you are right. BioWare does not sell. I gave false information. Sorry. The infinite dungeons module is the one to stay away from. After a while the saved game becomes of such a size that you time-out while loading. So one day you do not load, and you do not play what you saved. Sounds unbelievable, but is true. No fix for it. Unless you have nasa machine with e=mc2 cpu and ram hosted on mars (for logistic purpose) you are likely to run in this problem. The Diamond version has a few extra modules that are otherwise tagged "premium" and you need to log online to play. Aldabaran, you are judging a book by the cover. Oldest mistake in hystory. I have my level 37 Dwarven Defender now. He moves fast, he regenerates, he has 72 AC, he has 560+ HP, he has 5 attacks per round, he is carrying 26+ millions of gold (do not believe I collected them 1 piece at a time). He is strong and can lift 2600+ lbs of weight. And all these things can improve (if I find better gear). Compare it to a level 1 character you saw in your game. Is it not like rom2? In rom2 you start little and insignificant, and slowly become big and god-like. And I am a great fan of spellcasters. Wizards in primis. The resting you need to recharge your spells is a problem in the beginning only. You have to adapt your way of play with spellcasters. That is all. Look at it another way: enemy spellcasters too can run out of bullets if they expend all their spells and you are still alive ;-) -fox

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 29-Nov-08, 01:00:54
Bioware does not sell it. They sell only some unofficial add ons, though one sounds interesting: the unlimited dungeon. As for me, I don't care about the money, but this is taking way too much time and effort for a completely outdated game, poor graphics, slow interphase, and AD&D rules which slow down the game even more. I mean, resting to be able to recast spells, who wants that anymore? No healthregeneration... Rediculous! Gameplay... AD@D rules are based on turns, realtime fights are a joke! Once you start you are completely out of control because on the background everything is decided by initiative rolls. Moving... Omg, even when you run its extemely slow. And every NPC needs to talk, talk, talk. And the loot... 1 or 2 goldpieces after a long fight. Sigh. I guess I'm spoiled by the new genaration rpg games, starting with Diablo. Its fast action I want, no conversations with NPC's, fastleveling, lots of loot, and supergear! That's how I make my rom2 maps, that's how I like to play...

	Author: bbKing (arsnova30 [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 28-Nov-08, 23:16:15
what's wrong with Platinum edition? it has the 2 expansions, what more do you want. i bought it from eBay, new & sealed, i repeat "new & sealed" and again what more do you want? you certainly won't get it from Bioware for 11 euros lol

	Author: the.gray.fox (the [dot] gray [dot] fox [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 28-Nov-08, 22:02:53
It happpens to everyone to make a wrong buy once in a while. If I have to be angry at all the money I wasted in my life, I would be a so angry man that you would terror at the idea of living on my same planet. Trust the fox and do not let 11 euros keep you away from fun :-) Get the 2 expansions. Or be fox proper and buy the complete package "Neverwinter Nights: Diamond edition" (Diamond, NOT Platinum) You will be happy. And the CD Key thing is a problem from the past. It is long time fixed. Do not worry. But do not buy it from e-bay. Evil users may possess old flawed copies of NWN:Diamond they sell to get rid of. Buy from BioWare (http://nwn.bioware.com) and you are worry-free. -fox

	Author: bbKing (arsnova30 [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 28-Nov-08, 19:24:50
hmm it looks like you're a bit upset, Albadaran. but there's really no need to be. like all new games, you have to give yourself some time to get used to it. when i tried NWN a couple of years ago, i didn't like it either. so i went back to games i was more familiar with. this time, when i had passed that initial hurdle i gradually started to like it. i played through the official single player campaign and even played the HotU expansion, just to familiarize myself with the gameplay. and allthough i was a little reluctant at first, i must admit, NOVA didn't exagerate, it's much more fun to play than rom2, really it is. also it is worth the extra 11 euros, every cent of it. what more can i say to convince you? moreover, you can play anything you want. you want to be a pretty female fighter? all customized to suit your taste? hehe, there you go, you'll be one. or a handsome male wizard or cleric? the envy of the online community? the possibilities are almost endless. c'mon give it a serious try. you won't regret it, believe me.

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 28-Nov-08, 17:45:35
Damn! The previous posts don't make that clear at all! And those complete packages are coming with wrong access keys according to customer reports on Amazon.com. Besides, I started singleplayer and don't like gameplay there: too slow, endless conversations, turning of the camara makes me feel dizzy... Not very encouraging. Maybe if someone hands me the missing packs I'll give it a try, but I'm not going to spend more time on this. Have fun anyway.

	Author: bbKing (arsnova30 [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 28-Nov-08, 16:24:12
no, regrettably you also need the 2 expansions, Shadows of Undrentide and Hordes of the Underdark you could have known, cuz it is mentioned before well, for about 11 euros you have the complete deal (see my link in previous post) :)

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 28-Nov-08, 15:48:38
Bump

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 28-Nov-08, 12:33:19
It says: 'required expansion pack missin'... Thought I only needed the basic game?

	Author: bbKing (arsnova30 [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 28-Nov-08, 11:55:51
wrong IP lol use this one 173.23.96.226

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 27-Nov-08, 23:26:48
Can't connect to 12.240.2.112, it times out. Tried several times.

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 27-Nov-08, 23:06:45
Lol! I found the game in the local toyshop, I just installed it and patched it. Now I'm reverting the patch. How do I log in?

	Author: bbKing (arsnova30 [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 27-Nov-08, 09:46:21
i ordered the platinum edition from uk ebay for 11 euros (incl. postage) and had it in about 8 days. i just checked the seller and he has another one, new & sealed. check [url=http://cgi.ebay.de/Neverwinter-Nights-DELUXE-EDITION-New-Sealed_W0QQitemZ390012148994QQihZ026QQcategoryZ11047QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262]here[/url]

	Author: NOVA (KINGKOTA666 [at] HOTMAIL [dot] COM)
	Date: 26-Nov-08, 04:23:36
You must be on a known-criminal list somewhere....hahaha.

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 26-Nov-08, 00:06:22
Grr, the order was canceled for some reason I don't get. Contacted customers service about it. Another delay :(

	Author: Albadaran (simondekker [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 24-Nov-08, 19:39:36
Alright than... I ordered the basic game on BOL.com (dutchies will know hehe). Lets hope I get it working on you server. I'll contact BB later about installation and patch issues.

	Author: NOVA (KINGKOTA666 [at] HOTMAIL [dot] COM)
	Date: 29-Oct-08, 19:01:51
It may well have been. My damned ISP has been sporadically going on and offline for the past several days. I don't know if they're doing maintenance somewhere or what, but it's pissing me off. I've had to reset the server every morning and generally after getting home from work as well. It's even gone off several times while I was in the game playing or just chatting on MSN or hamachi. Keep trying. -NOVA

	Author: bbKing (arsnova30 [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 29-Oct-08, 12:43:51
ok, i updated to 1.69 then back to 1.68 next, i chose Direct Connect and used the IP provided in earlier post but connection failed. server down?

	Author: bbKing (arsnova30 [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 29-Oct-08, 04:12:49
found this on Bioware forum: My fav. server has not updated yet and I want to play on it. Is there any way to reverse the patch? You can find the revert patch here http://nwn.bioware.com/support/patch.html Make sure to read the instructions carefully! however i found out i have version 1.63 lol so i just need the 1.68 patch

	Author: bbKing (arsnova30 [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 29-Oct-08, 01:35:20
if Rhun doesn't use any CEP stuff, then why bother downloading? as to rolling back i'll try to get in touch with Atton

	Author: NOVA (KINGKOTA666 [at] HOTMAIL [dot] COM)
	Date: 28-Oct-08, 23:42:36
you can download any CEP you want. It won't matter because Rhun does not currently use the CEP material. However the game version WILL matter. Right now I have Rhun working on 1.68 only. You'll need to figure out how to revert back to 1.68 in order to play on my server. At least until I can figure out how to get Rhun to work with 1.69. Lord Atton has done this version rollback before, perhaps he can advice you on how to do it. -NOVA

	Author: bbKing (arsnova30 [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 28-Oct-08, 21:53:57
i received NWN Platinum today i believe it's version 1.69 CEP v2.1 is available now what CEP should i download?

	Author: NOVA (KINGKOTA666 [at] HOTMAIL [dot] COM)
	Date: 27-Sep-08, 04:51:27
Just a reminder that the NWN server is still online if anyone has the game and wants to play. The World of Rhun is a Persistant World module very much like the style ROM2 HATs I host (which is probably why I like it so much).

	Author: NOVA (KINGKOTA666 [at] HOTMAIL [dot] COM)
	Date: 14-Sep-08, 17:08:05
Because I'm bored as shit this weekend, I decided to put my NWN 1 server back up. Anyone is welcome to play. I have it set to a max of 8 players. You'll need to be running game version 1.68 (not upgraded to 1.69) in order to join. If anyone has already upgraded to 1.69, let me know and I can upgrade and restart the server. Choose MULTIPLAYER from the main menu and once you've received the GAME SPY server list, choose DIRECT CONNECT at the bottom of the screen. IP address for direct connect is 12.240.2.112 The game password is NOVA (all capital letters) All characters are stored server side, so you'll have to make new characters. I have maps and game notes if anyone wants to use them. The World of Rhun is so damned large I personally get lost without my notes. -- NOVA

	Author: NOVA (KINGKOTA666 [at] HOTMAIL [dot] COM)
	Date: 19-Feb-08, 02:18:26
Diamond Pack has everything except the CEP. Looks like they are up to v2.0 of CEP which is 390 meg of download. Anyone interested, I'm running the World of Rhun module for NWN1. Direct connect to IP 12.240.5.112 and you'll see the game. There is no player password required. Pretty good Persistent World module, though I think the monster respawn times need to be a LOT longer. You barely walk away from their dead corpse and they're back again. However, the world is HUGE and has several large cities and a boat load of wilderness territories. The module is roughly 100 meg (compared to the typcial large module which is about 10-15 meg), so that should give you some idea of the size of it. Enjoy, and let me know what you think of it. NOVA

	Author: Lord Atton (cosmclord [at] yahoo [dot] com)
	Date: 18-Feb-08, 08:59:08
Thanks Nova for the update. Still waiting to get my game. Not sure what expansions are on the Diamond edition. I will have a valid key and CD. I shoiuld be able to get those two modules and the CEP pak. TY, Lord Atton

	Author: NOVA (KINGKOTA666 [at] HOTMAIL [dot] COM)
	Date: 16-Feb-08, 12:13:53
Ok, minor update to my previous posts. I did a bit of experimenting running a dedicated NWN server and then attempting to play on it. I intentionally put up a firewall which prevented me from being able to connect to the GameSpy central server (where you get connected when you choose MULTIPLAYER option). Amazingly enough, after I got the "can't connect to server" error, I was given the menu of multiplayer options. One of them was DIRECT CONNECT, where I entered the IP address of a my game server. And whadya know.....I was able to connect and play despite never having logged into the GameSpy central server. The only penalty I suffered was not being able to see the typical list of hundreds upon hundreds of multiplayer games that the vast masses of NWN players out there are running. SO.....I stand corrected on my previous statement about not being able to play online without a unique CD key. You WILL be able to play online if you direct connect to a server (you'll have to know the server's IP address to do that. The next hangup, however, could be trying to upgrade your game to the latest patch level. Since I have a purchased copy of the game (and a valid CD key) I have no idea if you can upgrade with a "public" key. Anyone else out there who DOES know, please post and let us all know. I believe in order to play on a dedicated server, you have to have the same game upgrade level as the server is running (you'll want the latest upgrade for sure, which is 1.68). FYI...in order to play on Lunfal's "Entropic World" module, you'll need to have installed both game expansions (Shadows of Undrentide and Hordes of the Underdark) as well as the CEP (Community Expansion Pack). That's about 60-some-odd meg of additional gaming content which was created by the multitudes of NWN players and has been conveniently collected together as a semi-official NWN add-on and available for download straight from BioWare. Happy gaming folks. I hope to see you all inside NWN very soon. NOVA

	Author: Lord Atton (cosmclord [at] yahoo [dot] com)
	Date: 16-Feb-08, 03:45:53
Ok Gammers and Rom2 peeps I just broght the game. Diamond Pack for about $30 bucks. I don't have it yet, but I should have it shortly. If it is as Nova has said it should be awsome. We can make maps and play solo chrs in 3D and engineer the game the way we want. I am going to make THE GREENWORLD. I wrote a novel about the Greenworld. The NWN's game will eventually reflect the towns and cities and places in my book. Currently the book is not published. But I hope to eventually get it published and several books about different chrs in the GreenWorld. If you think Harry Potter is kool just wait til you see Wil HammerSmith. Look for NWN 1 GreenWorld Server coming soon to your computer. Take care, Lord Atton

	Author: Cowman8374 (spock [at] knology [dot] net)
	Date: 16-Feb-08, 03:01:13
Thanks NOVA. I would buy it straight out but I'm broke and i don't got a job till i turn 16 and im moving lately and thats just a big mess so if i ever get a chane ill get it and maybe ull see me online prolly same name =)

	Author: NOVA (KINGKOTA666 [at] HOTMAIL [dot] COM)
	Date: 15-Feb-08, 20:47:35
The game is easy enough to d/l. Use any p2p (peer-to-peer) network and you'll find boat loads them. Probably your best bet would be to use a torrent network (it tends to be the fastest and the largest), but any p2p network will likely have the game. You'll need a p2p torrent client program to get any torrents, of course. And I'm not going to explain here what a torrent is or how they work. If you don't already know, google that too. But your real issue is not going to be getting game. The problem will be trying to play ONLINE with your downloaded game. That's because you'll need a valid CD key. You can find one of those online as well, of course, but it won't be a unique one, it will be someone else's key that they posted online. And I have yet to find any working keygens for NWN, so unless you're resourceful enough to find one of those, you'll be stuck using a "public" CD key (one which probably 1000s of others are using as well). You can play the solo game just fine using one of these "public" keys, but when you attempt to play online, you will hit a major snag. You are required to log into a central server first. To do this, you must have created an online user account with that central server. It's been a while, but I recall your CD key is recorded at the time you create this user account. Not too hard to see you'll be flagged immediately as having a pirated CD key when you try to make your online user account. Only AFTER you have logged into this central server are you offered the menu option to connect to an online game server (this is true no matter where that server is at, even one that you yourself are hosting). Essentially, this all means you'll need a unique CD key in order to play online. You can give it a shot using a "public" key, I suppose. Let us all know how that turns out for you. Personally, I bought the game several years ago (paid about $60, well worth the money, unlike most games). And these days you can buy the Diamond Pack (includes original game, both SoU and HotU expansion packs, plus some additional premium modules) for around $25 and have it shipped right to your home. NWN and ROM2 are really the only two comptuer games I have never regretted purchasing. All the other games I bought I feel like I never got my full money's worth. NOVA

	Author: Cowman8374 (spock [at] knology [dot] net)
	Date: 15-Feb-08, 02:14:34
i used to have 1 and 2 but now i cant freakin find them. when i played there was only a few ever online but i want to play it again do u know if there is anywhere u can download the game?

	Author: NOVA (KINGKOTA666 [at] HOTMAIL [dot] COM)
	Date: 13-Feb-08, 22:49:48
The best way to get an idea of what NWN1 is like would be to seach for it on google. Type in "NeverWinter Nights". You'll find loads of reviews, screen shots, walkthroughs, and even youtube videos of people actually playing the game. Ditto for NWN2. NWN2 is supposed to be the sequel, but they actually made the game worse (not just my opinion.....most players say the same thing). Both games are awesome though, so you really can't go wrong with either of them. For what my opinion is worth, NWN1 is the single best computer game ever made. The single player game is absolutely awesome. The story line and the puzzles you have to figure out in order to beat the game are absolutely first rate. You'll be playing for weeks and weeks building your character and trying to advance through the game. The fact that you can play online is just a bonus, but an awesome bonus. The game is true 3d where you can rotate the camera angle all the way around your character. And it shows all your character's gear too. You have tremendous character customization options (starting with skin color, hair color, eye color, etc.) all the way through being able to spend skill points on any of literally hundreds of skills as your character gains levels. You can play the game a hundred times and no two characters you make will be the same. There are about 15 or 20 different character classes you can choose from as well, each with all sorts of different powers, skills, and attack methods (fighters, monks, thieves, assassins, mages, priests, druids, rangers, paladins,....and more). The selection of armor, weapons, and all sorts of other fancy magical gadgets is incredible. The sounds, the game lighting, and the vast array of monsters is truly amazing. In reality, each monster has all the same detail as your own character (see next paragraph). The game comes with an editing tool that allows you to view and/or make your own game modules (like the maps in rom2). But your mind will fry when you see all the stuff you can do with THIS editor. Rom2 looks like a 3-year-old designed it when compared to NWN. For instance, every single monster (and I mean every single one) has a complete character profile with skills, equipment, special abilities, weapons, armor, etc. The control you have over the surroundings is amazing too. One small example from Lunfal's module (see next paragraph)....when you enter the tavern in his main town, you see a piano player in the middle of the common room actually moving their hands across the piano. And you hear piano music playing in as well as the noise of all the NPCs in the room talking!!!!! Did I forget to mention many of the NPCs in the game actually TALK to you. And I mean you hear them talk....not just text you have to read. For those of you who remember Lunfal from rom2, he used the module editor (called the Aurora ToolSet) and designed his own game module (which he called Entropic World). He spent about 2 years working on it and he still never finished it. The module has about 140 separate adventure areas fully detailed where your character can go and the module is designed to be used as a Persistent World setting (meaning the module runs 24/7 on a dedicated server and can accomodate ALL character classes and character levels all playing at the same time). Even though it was never really finished, it is one HELL of an awesome piece of work. That's why I used it when hosting my own NWN server. Sadly, Lunfal has moved on to WoW and is unlikely to come back to either Rom2 or NWN. That is all. Now go buy NWN. It's the best money you'll ever spend on a computer game. NOVA

	Author: Lord Atton (cosmclord [at] yahoo [dot] com)
	Date: 13-Feb-08, 04:47:34
I would like to play. NWN 1 but I need to get the program and key code and a torrent server for it. Nova would you explain to the folks what a torrent server is and how you get one? I will post more as I find out about this 3D on_line game. Lord Atton

	Author: the.gray.fox (the [dot] gray [dot] fox [at] hotmail [dot] com)
	Date: 31-Dec-07, 14:40:15
is nwn1 the first never winter nights game? can you describe it in your words? i had interest in it and went to the website -- but i have not found the informations i was looking for so i began to read reviews and all reviews were similar in saying that it is such a great game with great aurora tools etc and you should not miss it -- but i did not find more detailed descriptions than this no body really explained how the game works and how does it feel when you explore the world how do you interact with the npcs? how is combat handled? do you have many places to visit and they look different from one an other or are they poor copies of the copies and the game becomes repetitive at some point? are there many different monsters or only few maybe with different colors that are reused all the time? are monsters smart or they are limited to basic attacks with no strategy? i remember i tried to download demo but have given up because of the very very long download times required so i am still looking to know more about this game that maybe i can like can you spend some words and tell me your impressions? what is lindsay price by the way?

	Author: NOVA (KINGKOTA666 [at] HOTMAIL [dot] COM)
	Date: 11-Aug-07, 19:25:55
Scrapped the server. Lindsay Price never showed up....so I gave up.....haha......

	Author: NOVA (KINGKOTA666 [at] HOTMAIL [dot] COM)
	Date: 28-Jul-07, 21:02:11
I'm running a NWN 1 server if anyone wants to join me. The IP is 12.240.5.112 Player password is eatme It's server characters only, so you'll have to make a new character. I'm running Lunfal's EntropicWorld module atm. NOVA

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